What tax forms do I need to file for solo 401k?5 Replies
Top ForumsSolo 401k, Solo 401k – 5500-EZJuly 6, 2021 at 2:08 pm
I was under the assumption that my cpa has been filing any necessary forms for our Solo 401k for the last several years, and found out that is not the case. I also thought that nothing was required if the total value of our investments in the solo k were under $250,000. Is that correct?
Until 2020 we had only invested in 4 apartment syndications at $50k each, which all used non-recourse debt for financing, so hopefully no UBTI tax? It could be argued that the value of those investments was under $250k until several of the properties were sold in 2020 and 2021. We also invested in a pre-IPO stock with about $100k, so I’m assuming that is the amount at which I should value that investment? It is now well above the $250k mark. I asked our CPA if they could take care of it, but the fees were HUGE. Long story, but I’m not going that route if I don’t have to. At this point I am trying to figure out if we need to file a form 5500 and/or a 990-T? Is this enough info to go on, or did I leave something out? Sorry for a million questions in one post!
Top ForumsSolo 401k, Solo 401k ContributionsJuly 6, 2021 at 2:29 pm
Top ForumsSolo 401k, IRA LLCJuly 6, 2021 at 4:15 pm
Great questions with a complicated answer.
There are two different items to address:
Form 5500/EZ: $250k+ Based upon Fair Market Value on 12/31/2020 https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i5500ez#idm140490140682768
Form 990-T: UBTI of 1k or more. In the case of a solo 401k that will NOT include debt financed income.
Many firms have no idea what they are looking at or even asking when presented with these things. Those firms are often focused on pounding out tax returns and that is it. A quality firm who works with clients in strategizing can make all of the difference in the world.
Top ForumsSolo 401k, Solo 401k – 5500-EZJuly 6, 2021 at 6:19 pm
Thanks Steven. That’s what was so surprising, as we do have a very qualified, highly experienced tax team. They even have a ton of experience with real estate syndicators, which is why I was very surprised. To be fair, we have a team of three, and that reply did not come from our lead cpa.
Either way, I may get in touch with you to handle the reporting on just the retirement funds in this case. In addition, I am an active real estate syndicator myself, and am fielding calls weekly from investors looking for a good CPA who has RE syndication experience. Maybe we can discuss sending them your way?
Top ForumsSolo 401k, IRA LLCJuly 8, 2021 at 12:16 pm
Being 100% honest, which I can’t help. I question their qualifications on that. Out of curiosity, and you can PM me, who do you use? You’re welcome to reach out to me directly about any referral work as we have clients worldwide.
Top ForumsSolo 401k, Solo 401k – 5500-EZJuly 8, 2021 at 3:28 pm
I definitely asked for that one and knew it was coming! They’re super experienced, but I guess the guy that replied to me must not be up to speed with solo k’s. I’ll PM you….
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